In this episode Lex interviews Kevin Owocki, founder of Gitcoin, one of the driving forces of Ethereum. Kevin describes his learning experience as CTO for Techstars startups led him to create the most popular open-source platform for Ethereum developers. Kevin's analysis of open source software outlines the unprecedented value of the Open Internet. He walks us through his journey building Gitcoin and the opportunity he had to create an incentivization mechanism with the help of Vitalik Buterin to create an environment where the market can express their preferences more fairly. Kevin also highlights the transformational potential of DeFi, and the power of memes.